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the old timey pre 2008 internet
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FlowingMindspin
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I have never been to 4chan and don't really know much about it... nor do I care to.

I just know one of my ex's friends would spout off meaningless dribble and attribute it to 4chan.
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Danihel,Jan 2 2017
09:41 PM
I'm gonna say it like it is, you guys are looking at this like people look back at the 90s: with rose colored glasses jerking off at 1000 miles an hour with no lube.

Internet back then was slow as fuck, google was pretty shitty back in the day, everyone had to use internet explorer, and web design was utter garbage and the popups were actually obnoxious as fuck instead of mildly annoying like they are these days.

Have you guys visited an older designed website recently? It's fucking terrible, navigating it is a pain in the ass, it has these weird bars on the side that you forget existed and the color schemes are idiotic, like a black backgroudn with blue hyperlinks and beige text. If we somehow were able to make our current internet and retrograde it back to how it was at like 2005, we would be pissed. No one wants to browse geocities and look at some 15 year old's shitty webpage about nothing. It maybe was quaint back in the day when you had nothing to do all day and had already jerked off 30 times to some blurry gif.

I think most people also forget or don't want to acknowledge that tons of shit from 4chan and especially YTMND was terrible. 4chan was like a sewer that you sort through cubic meters of shit and used heroin syringes in order to find a soggy french fry that you triumphantly hold above your head when you find it; and everyone claps and celebrates this discovery, because it validates their experience of sorting through shit and heroin needles for french fries.

YTMND was like a Norm Macdonald joke turned into a website with thousands of users. Norm Macdonald jokes aren't funny, but people laugh solely because the person next to them is laughing. They celebrate the joke because they don't want to look like the 1 dumbass who doesn't get the joke. Much like that, YTMND spawned a bunch of self masturbatory  "jokes" that are just shitty inside memes that have been recycled into some weird fucked up end product that someone proudly slaps a "joke" sticker on it, then proceeds to laugh with their friends at it while no one really knows why they are laughing. The process is repeated.

The reason people really miss old internet, and shit like that is simply because it's nostalgia. We remember a time when the internet was new and exciting and there was so much shit to explore. And that one french fry we found felt like we found a diamond, that we could share with our friends and laugh our asses off about. To contrast, the internet culture now is not catered to a bunch of people who played pokemon versions that consisted of colors that you could find in the rainbow, nor is it geared towards a time when first person shooters all had different equally terrible control schemes. Our experiences and memories that we cherish become less relevant as time goes on, and that sucks, but it doesn't mean I would like shitty ass post 2000 internet back.

Also big bang theory fucking sucks holy shit.

I can counter a lot of what you're saying.

I had a college T1 in 1997 (EDIT: Oh god Im old cant even remember what year I went to college); after in 2001, I had a cable modem. The Internet was fast as long as you weren't still stuck on dial-up.

Google was perfectly fine. Maybe when it first launched. All the past 10 years did was make it more psychic. And it was better without G+ jammed in our faces.

I never used IE as my primary browser. and there are people who actually did? Netscape comboed into Firefox.

The older sites at least had content. Where you actually had to type something instead of Likes or Upvotes.

The popups are less obnoxious now because of Adblock and even in-browser popups blocking. They would still be just as bad without those advances.

I feel sorry for you that you don't appreciate Norm's humor. It's an acquired taste.

I would like a time when there wasn't social media. I don't have any of those accounts and it's incredibly intrusive and obnoxious.

Oh yeah, and the 90s were shit. Total shit. The style, the music, everything. I got on the Internet in 1994 and I will gladly never have that time back.
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we can all agree that the Big Bang Theory sucks though, right?
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norm macdonald is a beautiful man and i want to kiss him
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shain,Jan 2 2017
10:36 PM
we can all agree that the Big Bang Theory sucks though, right?

It's responsible for the "lol so nerdy" crowd.

and it came out in what 2007 right? definitely a factor why the internet sucks these days
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I've also never seen a single minute of The Big Bang Theory outside of commercials for it.

I don't think anything can convince me to watch it (or 99% of what's on TV).
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shunshun,Jan 2 2017
10:57 PM
shain,Jan 2 2017
10:36 PM
we can all agree that the Big Bang Theory sucks though, right?

It's responsible for the "lol so nerdy" crowd.

and it came out in what 2007 right? definitely a factor why the internet sucks these days

that's my feeling as well.

i feel like a maddox link is appropriate:http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=youre_not_a_nerd

specifically,
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Until or unless you've paid your dues, you haven't earned the right—or reason—to call yourself a nerd. Being a nerd isn't graceful or glorious. It's a life born out of obsessive dedication to a craft, discipline or collecting some stupid shit that only you care about.
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FlowingMindspin,Jan 3 2017
02:36 AM
I've also never seen a single minute of The Big Bang Theory outside of commercials for it.

I don't think anything can convince me to watch it (or 99% of what's on TV).

Same. And yes, it's looks 100% awful. Is every episode character X says pop culture Y, laugh track, repeat?
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portnoyd,Jan 3 2017
05:57 AM
FlowingMindspin,Jan 3 2017
02:36 AM
I've also never seen a single minute of The Big Bang Theory outside of commercials for it.

I don't think anything can convince me to watch it (or 99% of what's on TV).

Same. And yes, it's looks 100% awful. Is every episode character X says pop culture Y, laugh track, repeat?

Yeah it is this exactly, if you feel so bold you can look up scenes on youtube where they removed the laugh track.

It's completely unfunny trash.

Anyway everyone here should look into stuff like decentralized internet, like mesh web or i2p; the more people interested the easier it will be to facilitate, then we can go back to the things used to be (but with better tech)

The sooner the better, they never made it a secret that they want to start selling us internet like television channel packages, and then there was that huge AT&T merger that happened, the sooner we get a mesh web the sooner we can get out of this mess before even this site gets taken down for whatever excuse they might make
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Some good points in here.

I don't think social media is very good for society.
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calgone,Jan 3 2017
09:07 AM
I don't think social media is very good for society.

It's definitely not. People still aren't ready for it nor do they understand it. They don't value privacy like they should and now need to. Nor do they understand the implications and actions of what they do and say and that those implications are similar to real life.

It has grown so way beyond 'lol ima put dis on my wall' too fast. The various companies that control "the social media universe" (groan) have taken them well beyond the Book for Faces and treat people on their sites like cattle. People don't realize that.

Just not a good situation.
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shunshun,Jan 2 2017
08:03 PM
I get what you're saying and appreciate it; but I find the type of person who claims nostalgia is bad, or the only reason, is insufferable.

Well I am on an NES forum. If I didn't value nostalgia, I wouldn't be here. What I am saying is that maybe we're looking at something through rose colored glasses.

Anyways, back to some good points that were brought up with the current problems of the internet:

I did enjoy being able to socialize without the idiocy of social networking sites, of which are now so deeply ingrained in culture that daily, nonstop use is woven directly into the fabric of people's lives. As someone who doesn't use them, it can be a bit alienating.

And it is nice to have websites that had a bit higher barrier to entry if one wanted to participate. However, I do enjoy Reddit. The problems most people have when they use it is that they expect front page content to be meaningful, whereas any interesting content lies within specialty subreddits.

One thing that has also really annoyed me about internet these days though is fucking memes. It's not like memes are some newfangled concept, internet memes have been around since the dawn of the internet. But goddamn, now everything is a fucking meme. It feels like a meme has come to mean a joke that used to be original and possibly funny, but was misappropriated into something that dipshits without an iota of humor say when they want to get cheap laughs from other idiots of equal or lesser value.




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haha I'm glad I made a thread that's gotten a bunch of replies.. even if some of them were about the big bang theory (which yes, does suck, even if my 63 year old father loves it)

I do have to say one thing to Danihiel is that not every site was poorly made back in the day, there were a lot of well designed and developed sites that cared about what they were talking about. i didn't spend hours into the wee morning going OH SHIT ITS 3 AM NOW I GOTTA GET TO SLEEP over some site that was just 22 gifs saying UNDER CONSTRUCTION...
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Danihel,Jan 3 2017
07:53 AM
I did enjoy being able to socialize without the idiocy of social networking sites, of which are now so deeply ingrained in culture that daily, nonstop use is woven directly into the fabric of people's lives. As someone who doesn't use them, it can be a bit alienating.

This is a big freaking deal here for me. There's a monstrous emphasis on constantly participating or you get drowned out, left behind, etc. Quantity over quality when it comes to the production and consumption of material, attention spans be damned.
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Danihel,Jan 3 2017
09:53 AM
shunshun,Jan 2 2017
08:03 PM
I get what you're saying and appreciate it; but I find the type of person who claims nostalgia is bad, or the only reason, is insufferable.

Well I am on an NES forum. If I didn't value nostalgia, I wouldn't be here. What I am saying is that maybe we're looking at something through rose colored glasses.

Anyways, back to some good points that were brought up with the current problems of the internet:

I did enjoy being able to socialize without the idiocy of social networking sites, of which are now so deeply ingrained in culture that daily, nonstop use is woven directly into the fabric of people's lives. As someone who doesn't use them, it can be a bit alienating.

And it is nice to have websites that had a bit higher barrier to entry if one wanted to participate. However, I do enjoy Reddit. The problems most people have when they use it is that they expect front page content to be meaningful, whereas any interesting content lies within specialty subreddits.

One thing that has also really annoyed me about internet these days though is fucking memes. It's not like memes are some newfangled concept, internet memes have been around since the dawn of the internet. But goddamn, now everything is a fucking meme. It feels like a meme has come to mean a joke that used to be original and possibly funny, but was misappropriated into something that dipshits without an iota of humor say when they want to get cheap laughs from other idiots of equal or lesser value.

I mean every aspect of pop culture (and that's what this is to an extent) has it's shitty elements. Dial-up was terrible, old websites were poorly designed and whatnot, but having the internet at all was weird and new and exciting.

The modern internet is a fast, beautiful and seamless way to look at fucking cats and watch people circlejerk over memes and shit that doesn't matter. Reddit is a great example. It's great at times to show links to videos and how-to's and to get help troubleshooting with something. But it got to the point where it's just a big fucking online popularity contest and you can't have a simple discussion without the comments section turning into a pun thread. Drives me fucking nuts. Some of the smaller subreddits are good but for the most part it's just as much of a leftist cesspool as 4chan/8chan is a right-wing/nihilist cesspool.

IDK. I don't want to fall into the old guy pit of "everything that is cool now sucks" but at the same time we just happened to experience the real, actual wild west that was the burgeoning late-90's internet and holy shit what I wouldn't give to go back to that.
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